Plot hole: Weeks if not months have passed since Mando has been on Nevarro, with the power shift and the Empire taking control. The Mandalorian community was small, but he finds the Armorer in the old lair that says that she will leave only when she will have salvaged what remains. Since 'what remains' is a pile of armor pieces, and she is carrying already a cart full of those, it appears absurd that she'd still not finished with that task, especially considering that we see how the smelting process is pretty swift (she melts an armor piece and shapes it into the signet in the space of a brief conversation!) and even if every single one of the Mandalorians left their armor behind, it'd be just a couple of carts' worth of metal.
Sammo
26th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
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Suggested correction: This entry presumes that the armorer has done nothing but collect armor pieces, and plans to continue doing nothing but collect armor pieces until she is finished. She never says that. She merely says that she won't leave until she is done collecting everything. She could be doing any number of other tasks she never says anything about because it isn't important. It is also never said when she started collecting armor pieces, it could have been just before we see her.
We can make all sorts of assumptions; she was grieving for a time, she had to go into hiding, she had to collect the armor pieces from various places? Fascinating, but if we do not presume anything, what we get is the Armorer (known as and for just that) salvaging armor (saying "I will not abandon this place until I have salvaged what remains") at a place established as raided a long time ago. What she had to salvage was meager (just a handful of Mandos) and does it fast.
In order to be a plot hole it would have to be impossible for the armorer to take this long to collect armor pieces. Since we don't know everything she has been doing off-screen, this doesn't count as a plot hole. You have to ignore all logical and reasonable possibilities to get to the point where this is a plot hole, and you list more than one in your reply.
I listed them because they are the kind of things we can assume to justify "Events or character decisions which only exist to benefit the plot, rather than making sense.", definition of plot hole in the website. We can make up all sort of background story, but nothing changes the fact that a character is at a place raided weeks prior and in the middle of performing a task that the way shown here is not going to take more than a few hours.
It's the "rather than making sense" part that this entry lacks. There are several reasons that make sense why this could take long, chief among them the fact that we don't know how long she has actually been collecting armor pieces. If, for example she said "I've been doing this since the attack", that would be one thing. She doesn't say that. She just says she won't leave until this particular task is done, not that it was her only task. She could have just started.
Collecting armor as specific task is something I find as such for the first time in your first comment. The attack happened shortly after Mando left, and the planet has been under a tight Imperial control since. Nothing leads to believe that the pile of amor is not salvaged but was brought back through some quest that stretched out for weeks until she finally decided exactly that day to start carting them to the furnace, which is what she's in the middle of when they arrive.
26th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Plot hole: The flamethrowing trooper enters, entirely on his own, walking slowly through the door, and neither Cara nor Greef, who are armed and not wounded, shoot at him, for no discernible reason other than giving the Child a little pyromancer moment. And of course, Gideon wants the baby ALIVE; burning the place to a crisp kinda goes against all of that, but he is the one who ordered that. (00:20:50)
25th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Plot hole: Mando thinks that the other Mandalorians are alive, that they will definitely help him (but then why didn't he contact them?), and even presumes that they are still hiding in the same sewers as before, when it was stated at the end of 1-3 that they'd have to relocate, and he knows now that the planet is under imperial control. Still, he is not wrong, and despite most of the Mandalorians having died, their precious armor lie there even days or weeks after.
25th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Chapter 7: The Reckoning - S1-E7
Plot hole: The boss of the boss murders Werner Herzog because he knows that the baby is not in the crib. Yet it takes Mando's message (somehow intercepted) for the troopers to start moving in pursuit. The heck were they waiting for? They have overwhelming forces in the area and a previous deal with Karga. (00:33:10)
25th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Chapter 7: The Reckoning - S1-E7
Plot hole: The Client does not care if The Child lives or dies, in fact he sent out bounties for the baby to be delivered dead, without even offering the incentive. But as if it were an SNL spoof, he is slowed down by Greef Karga's comment about the baby being asleep. Pretty amazing to begin with that the crib, aka an object completely sealed that could contain anything from a bomb to some form of killer droid or a stash of weapons, is allowed in without the faintest inspection. Not to mention that he is loaded with tracking fobs for the baby. He should be alerted just by not hearing beeps from the devices.
25th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Chapter 7: The Reckoning - S1-E7
Plot hole: Kuiil is shown salvaging the droid from the building's ruins. A campfire is still burning and the droid's remains are still smoking, but at the end of the mission he spent a couple days at least with Mando on the jawas' sidequest. The only time when he could have got the robot when the ruins were still smouldering would have been right after Mando left, but that implies he's been a huge jerk not giving him a ride, and lied to him when he acted surprised he was still alive - it's also impossible he could have had the droid on his property without Mando seeing it and freaking out. (00:09:50)
25th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Chapter 6: The Prisoner - S1-E6
Plot hole: Mando's ship appears in front of the X-wings, but they ignore it entirely without even acknowledging its departure. Considering they have strength in numbers and are chasing a fugitive and acting with extreme prejudice, it makes no sense. (00:36:40)
25th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Chapter 5: The Gunslinger - S1-E5
Plot hole: Something about the timing of the episode does not work. The two pursuers see in their first day of chase a dewback (animal mount). They storm Fennec's position when it gets dark. They quickly capture her, and then Mando wanders the desert to catch the dewback. It takes him the whole night to do so and get back to the encampment, which seems an absurdly long time considering he had it in his sight (and was even sending for it his partner who had no thermal vision). This also implies that Fennec was in the middle of the desert with no mean of transportation of her own.
25th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Plot hole: Mando tells Cara that news will travel of what happened on the planet and it's unsafe to stay there. Then he says that he'll go and leave the kid to live there. He is a bounty hunter, a veteran at the profession. He can't have forgotten about fobs and how they work, and that the bounty is on the kid. Wherever Mando himself goes makes zero difference. (00:31:25)
25th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Plot hole: It is a well-known fact that Mando is the one who got the bounty for the target, and the bounty has already been cashed in. Fobs are, as shown, specific for just one target and bounty hunters return them. Yet everyone hanging around at the cantina has still theirs. And again, the bounty was already cashed in, and surely the imperial guy does not have another bucket of incredibly rare and precious metal to give away.
22nd Jan 2021
How to Beat the High Co$t of Living (1980)
20th Jan 2021
Kyaputen Tsubasa (1983)
19th Jan 2021
Kyaputen Tsubasa (1983)
Plot hole: Once Wakabayashi wins his challenge against the Nankatsu senior students, he instantly is back at his huge mansion to collect Tsubasa's message. Tsubasa was standing just a few meters away watching The Challenge as it happened, and Genzo had no reason to run away (if anything he was supposed to supervise the team during training), nor he's shown doing that. He's just gone, no explanation. (00:15:20)
18th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Plot hole: Seeing The Child in episode 2-1 minute 10, Amy Sedaris' character shouts "Thank the Force." Up to that point nobody seemed to have the faintest idea of what sort of mysterious energy Grogu was using. It gets worse in episode 2-3 when Mando uses as greeting for the New Republic "May the Force be with you", which is used later other times. With the concept of Force being this ingrained in people's culture, it's inconceivable that *everyone* is completely clueless about Jedi, especially considering that Order 66 with the Jedi purge happens barely 30 years before the events of the Mandalorian, and several characters such as Kuiil or Greef Karga were alive and active during the time when Jedis were powerful and part of the administration.
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Suggested correction: There's a difference between seeing the Force used and knowing what it is and the common phrase "thank the Force" or "may the Force be with you." Plus, the Child is not a Jedi.
Not technically a Jedi, but he has been trained by Jedi and does those magical Force things that people would associate with Jedi, and would be perceived as such, if only people had any memories about them. Mando and Greef do not have the faintest idea of such 'magic' having ever existed, and Kuil has heard 'rumors' of it. Less than 30 years. Really, it's a common problem for all the Star Wars saga to some extent and it has been already debated to death. In this series nobody even seems to know the concept of Force in season 1, then in season 2 it pops up with random mentions.
The sayings are just customary more than knowledge of the Force. The Galaxy is big, with 3B habitable worlds, each having up to hundreds of millions if not billions of inhabitants each. The Jedi, at their peak and fall, were around 10,000. Many never heard of the Jedi, even less seen one. Find a remote village somewhere, and ask them if they remember the Atari.
18th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Chapter 1: The Mandalorian - S1-E1
Plot hole: Nick Nolte's little guy is supposedly terribly helpful towards Mando, showing him "the only way" to reach the enemy encampment, which is by riding the weird fishy beast, but when Mando surveys the target and the robot reveals itself, you can see that there are only shallow hills around the base, a large clear path of land, nobody even is on lookout...and most importantly, in the following episode, Mando makes it back on foot anyway, no blurrgs - and evidently the baddies had no vehicles, making them even less of a threat to begin with. And for being so helpful and good natured, he did not tell him to park the ship by/at his place nor warned him about the Jawas.
17th Jan 2021
Kyaputen Tsubasa (1983)
14th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Chapter 15: The Believer - S2-E7
Plot hole: The Imperial terminals have facial scan recognition...or just facial scan, really, since ANYONE regardless of being part of the army or not can just access any information of any level, as long as they have ANY face that the app can scan and identify as not being a known criminal.
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Suggested correction: The facial scan prevents droids from stealing data from terminals.
And also criminals from doing that. It runs a check, as I said in the entry. Against "Any New Republic registry", even, which should disqualify also Mayfeld being a convicted felon, but that's another issue. Who designs a security system that does complex checks about who is a wanted criminal or part of 'the other side' but does not check if you are part of their side? Also, any low level trooper (or nobody, even the janitor) can just access any information of any level, including the location of their special forces cruiser.
Maybe it just checks if you're human. You never see non-humans as part of the empire. A lot of non-humans are as "subspecies" by the empire.
14th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Plot hole: Mando's ship was completely wrecked, but two mechanics fixed it to top performance level and aesthetic pleasantness in a time shorter than it took for the Child to eat a small packet of macaroons.
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Suggested correction: His ship was badly damaged, but mostly repaired by the Mon Calamari. The remaining repair work was less complex, but still took place over the course of several days. A space-faring civilisation being able to repair a damaged ship is not a plot hole.
His ship is literally falling apart (we see pieces falling off as it moves), the engines are barely functioning and looks like hell. It's not at all a mistake that a "space-faring civilization" is "able to repair a damaged ship", it is when the editing of an episode makes it look like two dudes fixed to pristine condition a wreckage in the same time it takes for a kid to munch his cookies.
14th Jan 2021
The Mandalorian (2019)
Chapter 6: The Prisoner - S1-E6
Plot hole: When the distress signal is launched, approximately 20 minutes are left till the arrival of the New Republic fleet. From the control room the team arrives to the prisoner's cell with 15 minutes to spare. They lock Mando up, and next time they communicate with their getaway robot dude, it says there are only 10 minutes to go, meaning it took them an astonishingly long time to navigate the ship without being really much closer to the exit, having met no opposition. Then the episode turns into a slasher movie of sorts, and somehow Mando manages to find them separately, hunt them down and as it turns out, not simply disposing of them, but also drag their unconscious carcasses to the empty cell he escaped from. There's nothing coherent about this timeline.
11th Jan 2021
Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)
Plot hole: The established rule of the wishing stone says that you get one wish, to the point that Max couldn't grant a second wish to the guy who wished a Porsche even if Max was really eager to get his help, and warned his son against wasting his, screaming disappointed when he did waste it. But all of a sudden, he can grant Cheetah a second wish because he's "feeling generous". Without rules, he'd be some omnipotent being who can do anything. The fun part is that there was no need at all for this mess, since Barbara's second wish by its nature (and even the way she formulates it) supersedes the first...but Max couldn't know that. (02:01:10)
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Suggested correction: Max is taking from whoever wishes, he choses what. What he takes, he gives to Barbara and himself. He takes the health, she gets the fury. That way he grants her wish without her actually wishing. Same with himself, taking what he wants. And yes, what she wishes does supersede her first wish, but e still holds those powers as well.
That's just changing the established rule out of the blue and just for one person. Why would she get more than one wish when everyone else can't and earlier he was shown to have that limit and be frustrated by it?
It can also be pointed out that the original stone gave Barbara her wish. When Max Lord became the Dreamstone, he became something else. She never got a wish from him. When he says he was feeling generous, he wasn't saying he'll grant her a 2nd wish, he's saying he won't take anything from her.
Then he did not get what he wished for, since his wish was literally "I wish to be you, the Dreamstone itself." And him not taking anything from her is again a change of the rule.
And since he didn't turn into a crystal, he became something else. He had the power. And there was no "rule" something had to be taken, Max was taking something out of greed. The stone did have a natural consequence, which Barbara experienced by losing her humanity in order to become Cheetah. But that's noting to do with Max taking anything or the rules changing.
The conversation is shifting away from the original point; she gets 2 wishes and nobody else does, not even people he wants them to. It cannot be because they are considered separate entities, because then the previous stone is not considered in existence anymore and then Barbara and Diana's desires should have been nullified.
Technically you can't call this a mistake. The stone being absorbed by Max doesn't destroy the power the stone held, nor is there a president for this. So there is no telling what would change from the original powers and or ruleset of the stone. Max never granted a 2nd wish and stating he was feeling generous was just a means to get the wish spoken out. Max also offered Diana a wish even though she already had a wish happen by the original stone. The question is, did the stone restore?
It's all the same thing. The problem with a lot of these mistake entries is making false assumptions about what should or shouldn't happen and not understanding who the characters are and what's going on. Yes, the film has flaws, but this isn't a forum to express your personal thoughts about what you think is wrong with the film (some don't even sound like original ideas since they're word exactly like what you can find online everywhere).
Since it's not a forum, I shouldn't reply to something not pertaining to the entry itself, but thanks for saying that you can read this 'everywhere', means I am not the only one thinking this way and perhaps you should wonder why? But that aside he can't grant wishes to someone who already expressed them not take nothing away, until he just does. My original entry says who when why based on the movie itself. The movie being flawed or not is not really my point, I hope it's clear that whenever something about a movie is posted, it does not mean to just 'riff' on the movie or 'bash' it or anything per se. Enjoying a movie and its plot with its simplifications and sometimes metaphorical licenses has nothing to do with examining a plot point and read through the fine print.
Maybe instead of endless comments one should just wait with commenting until the suggested entry is actually liked enough and corrects your mistake. If people don't agree with the suggested correction, no need to discuss it.
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