Continuity mistake: After Dennis punches Spence in the nose the piano starts playing and Dennis just pushes it to turn it off even though every time they had to turn it on and off before then they had to use the on/off switch. (01:01:40)
Sammo
26th Jun 2003
A Fine Mess (1986)
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Suggested correction: I took it as a very movie-like "when you don't know how to fix/start/stop/do stuff to a machine, just hit it" moment. Thing is though, just mere seconds before in the same scene, Howie Mandel bumped against the piano, hitting harder than it does to stop it, and it kept going, so I do think that this entry has some merit.
This correction is unnecessary. It validates the original mistake at the end.
The original contribution points out something that, especially in movies, happens a lot: hit some device and it stops. Personally I don't see it as a mistake and I would have not reported it. But I do think it's inconsistent, that it stopped that second time and not the first. I could have submitted a new mistake entry but I did not find it necessary, or a request to change the entry's wording, but I think it is best to keep the original contribution and present a possible explanation and suggestion of a possible, slightly different, inconsistency in the same scene.
And none of that is needed. Explaining why a mistake happens is never a valid correction. And explaining the mistake in a different way isn't needed either (although one can change the wording of a mistake if one feels the mistake isn't clear enough).
27th Aug 2001
Along Came a Spider (2001)
Corrected entry: When they inspect the dead fisherman they mysteriously find Megan's school sweater. She wasnt wearing it when she jumped overboard, and her clothes weren't thrown in the water. So where did it appear from? (00:47:02)
Correction: The killer may have just thrown this item of clothing into the water as another part of his game.
It's not necessary to invoke the whole "he's crazy and playing games so anything goes" blanket justification here: the original entry is wrong. They do not find the sweater, but the sleeveless vest she was wearing before jumping in water, and that is not on her anymore when Soneji fishes her out.
10th Mar 2002
Along Came a Spider (2001)
Corrected entry: In the car crash in the beginning of the movie, the car breaks through some large steel bars on the bridge and ends up hanging down from it. But actually the hole, which the car is supposed to create, is there already! Hint: Run it in slow motion and it's pretty obvious.
Correction: Per the rules of this site, if you have to use slow motion to see something, then it is not a valid mistake.
28th Dec 2007
Along Came a Spider (2001)
Continuity mistake: During the "running game" segment, Cross gets a cell phone that uses an earpiece and is told to keep it (for further instructions). When he gets to the subway loading platform, he gets another call, but he is not wearing the earpiece while he listens to the new instructions. Soon after that he is shown wearing the earpiece again while he listens.
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Suggested correction: You probably haven't focused on Morgan Freeman's ear. The cord of the earphones are hard to see in that sequence and you may be led to think the whole apparatus is gone, but if you just look at his ear you'll see that from the entrance to the escalator to the platform to the train, in every part of the conclusion of the 'running game' happening in the station, Alex Cross is wearing the phone earpiece.
27th Aug 2001
Along Came a Spider (2001)
Continuity mistake: After Freeman and the Main Detective girl are at the beach looking at the body of the man who was shot in the water trying to save the little girl, Freeman says "let's go back to the city". On their way back in the car, of the three times the camera is on him, he only has his seat belt on twice. (00:50:00 - 00:51:00)
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22nd Jan 2002
Along Came a Spider (2001)
Continuity mistake: At the beginning of the film when Freeman's partner shoots the guy in the Corvette and the car starts flipping, the right front tyre is shown coming off the car and tumbles in the air several times, but when the car is finally getting tangled in the guard rails, it shows the car with still 4 tyres on. (00:04:15)
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9th Oct 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Factual error: In her second encounter with the Supreme Intelligence, Carol's memories 'jogged' by the Earth's sojourn include a record of "Come as you are" by Nirvana. A memory that Carol couldn't possibly have, having become Vers in 1989, and with the song being part of Nirvana's ultra-famous "Nevermind" album which came out in 1991. (01:27:30)
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Suggested correction: She could have heard it since she spent a little time in 1995 in the bar and at Rambeau's house. Even in the car it could have been on the radio (then Fury turns it off). Just because we didn't see her hear it doesn't mean she didn't, there definitely was opportunity.
Yes, I heard that objection before, but the song should have some sort of meaning or relevance in a scene that is all about "the old memory" getting "jogged back", not just be something she perhaps listened to, off-screen, randomly.
Or it was the most recent song she heard and therefore at the top of her mind.
This isn't relevant If the scene is random or not it doesn't matter. The mistake was that she couldn't have heard it, but she could have heard it.
No, the mistake is that the song is part of a scene based on an old memory of a specific timeframe explicitly referenced as such, of which Nirvana is not a part of. The Supreme Intelligence explicitly references the 1989 memory and its cool jacket she gets to wear thanks to it, and the music, "nice touch."
The original mistake said that she couldn't possibly have that memory. But according to the correction she could have heard it in the bar on with fury or in the Rambeaus' house. So it doesn't matter if it's random or not It's a memory she could have had.
I am sorry if the text is unclear, but I wrote the original mistake phrasing it that way ("Carol's memories 'jogged' by the Earth's sojourn") exactly because that is what the mistake is about, those specific memories the whole scene is built upon, Dr. Lawson cosplay and all. Sure a song you just heard on the radio 5 minutes ago is technically a "memory' being in the past, but it is not what they are talking about, even complimenting the music as being a "nice touch." If an evil mastermind were to take the shape of my Grandpa who died 10 years ago and play Daft's punk "Get Lucky" as he meets me in front of the family scrapbook dressed with his favourite smoking jacket, the song would be out of place, even moreso if he remarked about it being a nice touch.
Technically she could have "recognized" the song but maybe thought it was some new version of Killing Joke's "Eighties" which was released in 1984, since the riffs are so similar. And no I'm not serious about that.
27th Oct 2017
Along Came a Spider (2001)
Trivia: After Morgan Freeman shoots the guy with the shotgun, the next scene is outside with the news crew and you will see Morgan Freeman walk by the camera dressed up with dreadlocks and cap and keeps looking at the camera. It's Morgan Freeman playing an extra.
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Suggested correction: I agree, it's definitely not Morgan Freeman. If you're talking about the guy in the red knit cap and what looks like a red sweater vest, he doesn't have a mustache and his nose is completely different from Freeman's nose looks like in profile. Without any confirmation from someone from the film (such as a director's commentary) or further evidence, this isn't valid trivia.
Suggested correction: Wow, I find pretty extraordinary that this cameo is not mentioned anywhere else. The guy does look like Morgan Freeman (I am adding a screenshot to the entry), and is not seen anywhere else in the scene, nor Freeman is in the wide shot, so I can't say the entry is false, I just find it quite strange since usually this sort of humorous bit roles get mentioned a lot. Kudos for noticing.
That is not Morgan Freeman.
9th Oct 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Stupidity: Carol enters the Imperial Cruiser that doubles as a secret laboratory, uncloaking it. She does not cloak it back, so the villains just find it immediately. But blood-thirsty Ronan, despite having multiple ships, does not target it or acknowledge it, despite fully knowing that Earth has no defenses and is not a threat, while a Kree vessel would necessitate countermeasures.
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Suggested correction: The Kree wanted what was on the ship. Destroying it would not achieve their goals. Additionally, since Carol was able to decloak it using her suit, so could any other Kree soldiers.
If to decloak it they need to know the location, it had to be visible to begin with? Going by the movie, Ronan has not even been informed about Mar-Vell's project. If the movie still remembers there is any (no indication is given), he suddenly finds a ship not part of his fleet and does not question it, simply going by what the plot wants him to do. Which, actually, could be fully intentional, since he obviously just cares about blowing stuff up and does not care even if any of his fellow Krees is still on the planet (not that the movie implies it, as movies normally would, but he's such a one-note character that it could be possible).
Earth doesn't have defenses and is not a threat, the Kree cruiser is obviously not part of Earth's defenses but is one of their own. He just didn't realise it is a target instead. Besides, Kree are on board, why would he target it?
That's exactly the point of what I originally said: Earth is not a threat, but he, fresh off his jump, right away gets in bombing mode without checking where the other Krees are (Yon-Rogg is on Earth at that exact moment, right the spot he is dropping the bombs at, even!) or batting an eye at the cruiser that happens to be already there, not target it but ask "what is going on here?", hail them or receive a report about the situation and where he is supposed to blow his load (would have been a single line of dialogue, here it seems an issue entirely ignored because plot moves from A to B): as a member of the military he is supposed to coordinate his attacks (like he did earlier on the first meeting with the Skrulls, where he bombed a specific part of the planet). Here all his instructions have been "Come at once, Earth has been infiltrated!", but he launches the bombs right away, seconds after jumping close to Earth.
9th Oct 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Stupidity: Mar-Vell's laboratory is a spaceship that the captions identify as an imperial cruiser, not exactly the kind of thing that can go missing unnoticed. Since the Kree were so determined in finding Mar-Vell's work and are so attached to it that they keep Carol around, how is it possible that in 1989 or ever since they haven't looked for her cruiser? Carol manages to uncloak it without using any secret code (that she wouldn't know since Mar-Vell told her about the whole alien thing just barely before dying and was not privy to any security measure).
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Suggested correction: Decloaking the ship still necessitated knowing its location. The Kree didn't know where it was, so couldn't decloak it.
But they don't even look for it. He literally goes "oh, well, the engine is gone, let's go home", without any attempt to look for Mar-Vell's project or, again, the big cruiser thingy. Something so important, and yet the empire does not care about it to probe around for it.
In your other entry you suggest Ronan doesn't even know about Mar-Vell's project. More likely he doesn't care, since he is a fanatic who worships the old ways. Its logical he will ignore it, especially when his interests have been turned towards Carol flying around blasting through his ships. Which he later forgets for whatever reason as well.
No, no, I am referring to Yon-Rogg in the past, and the empire as a whole: they are after whatever work Mar-Vell was doing, to the point of keeping around with a very flawed brainwashing plan an incredibly dangerous being created with that technology, but don't look for her ship or evidence of her work, at all. 6 years with the knowledge that somewhere around (or on) Earth there's the key to unlimited destroying power and/or a hyperfast engine, and everyone is like "Meh, whatever" for no reason.
9th Oct 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Plot hole: Mar-Vell's achievement, what makes her work so coveted by both Kree and Skrull, is the "lightspeed" engine equipped on the jet. This "lightspeed" engine is unable to outrun the Kree fighter sent after it. It's hard to imagine how Carol being the test pilot for this technology has failed to ever realise that this is what was being studied and how she is a test pilot for an engine that is never used at a fraction of its capabilities.
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Suggested correction: Clearly the engine was not being run at its full potential at that point. It was experimental and would never fly at FTL speeds in the atmosphere of a planet.
Absolutely! But what sort of "tests" have they been doing on it for all those months or years?
Can't simply start using an FTL to outrun a bogey. You probably could wind up inside a planet or destroy the atmosphere. She probably has her reasons not to use it. Who knows what Mar-vell was really testing, maybe that was just a ruse and all she was doing was buying time to come up with a plan to use the engine to help the Skrulls without the Kree finding them. There is no plothole if you simply can't imagine what the motives are.
The engine had to be important, otherwise the whole ruse of Mar-Vell being Dr. Lawson would have been pointless: she already had the Tesseract itself aboard her ship, where the Earthlings could never find it if she chose to disappear overnight, so it had to be work related to the engine itself and its implications, how to actually handle it. It is implied that the engine works (she instructs Carol before dying to "save them without me" and Talos says that now they can reassemble the "thousands scattered around the galaxy"), so again, it seems absurd that the engine cannot give the slightest extra punch to her ship, which already was headed towards space, the laboratory, and that she can't fly up out of atmosphere - or that she tested something dealing with lightspeed or close to it, for all that time, to the point of making a somewhat working prototype, but never figured it out.
I submitted a text change request and I hope the entry has a chance to be reinstated some time. As I said in the other comments, it makes no sense that Carol is the test pilot of a lightspeed engine, the lightspeed engine is completed and works, but the test pilot herself has no idea the engine works and can't produce any ever significant boost. They are already in 'space' when the scene begins, it's not like they would risk to crash into Earth.
Will wait for the rewording then but right now the entry is rightfully corrected. More reasons could in fact be given. Carol is the test pilot for a spacecraft that happens to have a FTL engine (which I turns out is what it was all about). The FTL isn't active when they are being chased and doesn't provide extra boost to the spacecraft's regular engines. Wouldn't help either as there can be several simple reasons why one can not use it at that time.
The FTL engine then has been developed and finished without Carol having any input on it and she flew with it for no reason. What has Mar-vell been doing all this time and why has she bothered with Carol at all? Does not even need Pegasus project since the Tesseract is aboard her own cloaked ship and not in the research facility downstairs. If the engine is off, why is it on the plane at all? Looks very active later when the plan crashes and Carol makes it explode with a single blast, etc.
6th Oct 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Corrected entry: Fury is laughing off the idea of Vers being an alien and asks a normal cop to put her under arrest. But then, it would not make sense SHIELD even bothered to arrive on the scene (assuming Fury was in LA already) if they did not detect also the crash of the escape pod, the huge ship exploding in atmosphere and thus treat the problem as serious. They also arrive simultaneously as the cop, in daylight, when Vers crashed at night.
Correction: Their knowledge of aliens was the same as anybody in those days. Fury just thought she was some crazy person, with perhaps some forbidden weapons and/or communications technology. They arrived after the security guard called it in, since there were multiple incidents at that location they decided to send in SHIELD agents (regular agents) besides a regular cop in case there was a connection. Since they arrived in daylight I'd say they had quite a drive to get there.
Just a note: was not just regular agents, Keller is on the site as well, he's the first to arrive even (I did not notice it the first two times I have watched the movie, partly because the deleted scene in the office made me imagine a different scenario). So it's important enough that the top brass from SHIELD (plus rookie Coulsen and whoever drove Keller) arrive but at the same time they waltz in with the odd normal cop as backup. They can't be there because of some dude said there's a lady in a suit, did they even notice a spaceship blow up (you'd expect so but the movie and MCU ignore it later when larger ships suffer the same fate)? I don't want to repeat myself too much and I agree with what you wrote: to me the dynamic seems quite strange. In such a long time the first respondents (in the middle of a city) arrive only when SHIELD arrives, an hour after they've been called. And no cop or fireman arrived before on the impact zone? The response to this crisis is pure 'movie logic'.
Right, Keller being there is weird already, since he just disappears when they confront Carol. Couldn't be Talos in disguise either or he would attack her. His questions at the autopsy suggests he replaced Keller after the chase. If that's got to do with deleted scenes though, not sure how to handle that. I agree that's weird, but a plot hole? The security guard called in the lady asking wierd questions, probably nothing about the crash. Anyway the response can still be explained by SHIELD taking over and have the regular law enforcement not respond until they arrive as well. Again, even in the 90's SHIELD seems to have a lot of power and control. You can only guess at what they really know or think.
In the deleted scene, Talos in disguises enters Keller's office thanks to the real Coulson kindly opening the door for him and the real Keller is discovered knocked out, bound and gagged there indicating he took his place. But deleted scenes are always tricky and in case of this particular movie they have to be discarded altogether I think, since some contradict the movie (Vers begins the movie meeting Jude Law as he is training some kids and does not visit him in his room; Vers bullies the biker guy into giving her the bike, etc). Anyway yes, we both agree the situation is weird, I understand you being as usual more cautious than me when it comes to call a contrived and scarcely logical behaviour a "plot hole" and I appreciate it, matter of opinion, we both pointed out what's wrong and what sort of explanation, lack thereof (or perhaps no need of) there is.
7th Oct 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Stupidity: Project Pegasus is a billion dollar structure with no security guards besides the couple dudes Fury shows the badge to at the entrance, no video surveillance, and once SHIELD arrives nobody has to even open a locked door anymore.
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Suggested correction: First of all, Fury was allowed in as it's a government facility and he works for the government and as a SHIELD agent is allowed access. It's inside a mountain and they passed multiple security guards as they drove in, armed guards. Everything is thumb prints and cameras which was quite elaborate for that time. To say they lack in security is quite an understatement. SHIELD has quite some authority and can easily take control in the Pegasus project facility.
You are right about the main entrance being truly secure both for guards and strategic position. The problem is that they are free to just roam the facility for an hour, blast through doors, not a soul in sight, no evidence of camera monitoring the inside of the structure, and once the gag of the pad is finished, no door requires it. Actually, funnily enough you can see a guard of the place opening the elevator for Fury and the supervisor, as if the thumprint scan was needed to even get into the elevator itself, but Keller then just walks into the archive just fine (from a different door than the one Vers blasted). There are keypads to exit places (for instance the hangar, when the agents in pursuit break through the door you can see a keypad on the wall) but only when it's convenient (Vers and Fury walked through that same door with no problem, not to mention the fact that the whole stairs seem to have none, which is funny for a place that has keypads both sides of doors).
6th Oct 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Plot hole: Fury comments on Vers' lack of weapon and issues radio messages about her, referring to her as a single 'suspect' during the whole chase, ignoring entirely the fact that a sniper shot him with a futuristic weapon as well. In fact, the weapon is a complete non sequitur and random element; we saw the Skrull emerge from the sea, unarmed and no Skrull weapon is shown in the rest of the movie. And the sniper runs away without it, presumably leaving the weapon or remains of it for SHIELD to study (and do nothing with it for the next decade).
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Suggested correction: They haven't even seen the other suspect and can only chase 1 person at a time, he only radios it in once. The weapon is an arm weapon that disappears under the cloak of the human form.
The weapon is a rifle, (he looks like he is using two hands when he uses it, check out at 29:14) that he did not have to begin with, and at no point in the movie Skrulls seem to be able to conceal weapons in their suits - if they were, ironically enough the 'identification' Carol jokingly brings later to Fury blasting the juke-box would be wrong. It's unnacounted before and after the incident. As for the first part, I can't agree on the fact that they haven't seen the other suspect: Fury turns around before the blasts is fired and at least they know they were shot at from an unknown perp, even more reason to instantly radio about it. The whole dynamic of the scene brings instantly the sole focus on Vers (understandably from a movie logic perspective, but I am here to nitpick how unnatural it is), to the point that he asks 'Rook' if he has seen her weapon, as if being shot at with energy blasts from rooftops were normal, and he does not say anything about the other person.
They may not show concealing their weapons that way but they do show the ability to hide various large objects including cattle prods under their disguises without effort (like in the fight against the Kree earlier). Their camouflage ability is highly sophisticated. It won't be difficult to conceal any weapon. As for the part about the sniper never being mentioned, you have a point but I question if it's really a "plot hole" rather than a simple character error. Fury focuses on Carol, he could be doing that for a lot of reasons, the best one I can come up with is that is the suspect they have a face on and fired a powerfull blast without a weapon. Logical they are interested in her, enough to make sure she doesn't get away from them.
Ehh, they were concealing the weapons under big cloaks, not making them appear out of thin air around their hands. When they land on Earth they are with just their normal suits with no camo. I think that if they had the power to do that sort of trick with their guns it would have been set up earlier, fighting against Carol everyone either starts with a weapon or does not, nobody is shown summoning a weapon out of the suit. I agree on the matter of Fury's behaviour being more accurately a character error, considering that other meaningful members of his team are Skrulls at that point. Distinctions can be blurry especially when I don't break down a topic focused on a single event in the movie ("Skrull sniping with unexplained weapon nobody seems to care about") into 2-3 different separate submissions to the website.
The cloaks were part of the camouflage. At one point they are all wearing cloaks, the next they are not and are carrying weapons. If they can do that to conceal weapons, they can do a lot more.
7th Oct 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Corrected entry: The date on the pictures of the crash site is 06/23/1990, contradicting what Fury says (and what the movie establishes elsewhere), with the crash happening in 1989. (00:47:25)
Correction: The date on the picture is in the classification section and refers to the date of classification, not the date of the crash. The markings however are incorrect for a classified document for multiple reasons, including not including a level.
Thanks for the specification, that is interesting! However, would something of this importance be processed a whole year after the fact?
Yes. Whenever a "new" document is created, its classification date is the date that the classification was determined and formalized. If a picture wasn't processed for a year, or if a blowup was later made (transformations count as new), then those "new" documents would show the date that the classification officer did the review. I was for a few years a classification officer, and sometimes had to review older material that someone never bothered to have reviewed until later.
12th Mar 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Corrected entry: Fury states "official SHIELD business" after his car accident. SHIELD wasn't called that until the end of the first Iron Man movie.
Correction: The acronym is pretty straight forward. We have never been told that nobody used the name SHIELD, just that the name Strategic Homeland Intervention Enforcement and Logistics Division was a bit of a mouthful. Coulson says "we're working on it", but didn't say the change to SHIELD was the result. As far as we know, there was consideration about changing the organisation's name as a whole.
More simply it was a throwaway joke in "Iron Man" and the mistake (it is a nonsensical part of the plot thrown in for a joke, a trend the MCU is guilty of sometimes as this movie shows) is part of that movie, since it's kinda obvious it would not make sense on closer scrutiny. That or Coulsen was just trolling Pepper. Let's not make hypothesis that there could be a hidden meaning in the wording and an entire name change was in the making: the spirit of the original scene is clear. It's only a matter of choosing if obvious jokes and absurdities should be ignored (labeling them as mistakes is kinda like 'explaining a joke'), or not.
13th Jul 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Corrected entry: In The Avengers Fury said that the first alien that they had contact with was Thor, but this film contradicts that.
Correction: Fury's statements aren't entirely incorrect. He specifies that SHIELD is building weapons due to what occurred the year before (Thor's battle with the Destroyer), and that "we" have learned we are not alone in the universe. The Skrull/Kree incident would have been kept pretty secret, but the incident with Thor would be much more well known, especially to the people in the room. He never actually says that Thor was the first alien that had been encountered.
The statement though was about "how we are hopelessly, hilariously outgunned", too. With the Tesseract in their possession and proof of entire alien races at work, research on weaponizing the Tesseract should have been already years and years in the making - while in Avengers it was also said that it's starting the work on weaponizing the Tesseract that drew Loki to it. Of course that statement could have been wrong, but surely nothing before this movie justifies over 10 years of time just sitting on the notion that there are aliens that can reach Earth and use high tech energy weapons and spaceships (a bunch of which is casually dropped on Earth, too).
14th Mar 2019
Captain Marvel (2019)
Corrected entry: Inside the Blockbuster in 1995, there is a poster for the movie "Babe." Babe did not get a home video release until March of 1996.
Correction: Video rental stores often had posters of movies still in theaters or coming soon to home video.
27th Jan 2014
Escape Plan (2013)
Corrected entry: Stallone uses the wax layer from a drinks carton to place over the keypad to his cell so he can get the 4 digit code, all well and good but the wax sheet is not numbered, so when it is removed he would have no idea how it was fitted on the keypad, leaving him with multiple combinations. When he does escape he cannot see the keypad from his cell and is just using blind luck to key in the code.
Correction: He made mention that it came to finding the correct sequence. It is never specified how long he worked on it until he found it.
There's only 10,000 possible permutations. He must have got real lucky.
10,000 is correct for four unknown digits but the wax is supposed to show him which four are used. That's only 24 combinations. That assumes there's no limit on attempts but it's a much more feasible number.
1st Aug 2017
Escape Plan (2013)
Factual error: When Ray figures out he is on the ship, he makes it back to his cell, creating a flood along the way, he then swims through a lot of water. When he returns to his water drenched cell and escapes with Victor, his clothes are bone dry. (01:54:30 - 01:55:20)
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Suggested correction: I really don't think so. Their clothes are completely soaked, like their hair and skin.
Nope...watching the scene many times in slo-mo, it's clear that Arnie's shirt is soaked, but Sly's is just as obviously dry.
In the first shot when he comes out from the cell he is more than knee-deep in water, with water splashing everywhere, and there are showers of water everywhere when the shot changes: if the shirt were dry you would see stains created by the water spashes and by soaking wet Arnie leaning on him and touching him, since it is impossible for a dry shirt to stay dry through what we see onscreen, let alone the multiple takes most likely they had to do: instead the color of the shirt is uniform. Plus his hair, face, his T-shirt underneath is wet, why would they throw a dry shirt on him on that mess, and how would it stay dry? I think it's simply the light to make them appear different, Arnie is on the darker side of the corridor. However, that's just my observation.
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