Corrected entry: Khan says he doesn't know Terrell, but remembers Chekov. Chekov wasn't a part of the crew at the time of "Space Seed", when Khan was first introduced.
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15th Jan 2019
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)
17th Jan 2019
Common mistakes
Corrected entry: Particularly in sitcoms, characters will talk about another character behind their back while still being in the same room and talking at a normal speaking level, but the character being talked about somehow never hears anything.
Correction: Considering the fact that most sitcoms are recorded in front of a live audience, I wouldn't really say this is a mistake. Like in a live play, it needs to be heard by the audience. Also it's more of a cheat than a mistake, with the implications that they are speaking low enough that the person in question can't hear them but the person they are speaking to closer can. If anything, you might could consider this a Deliberate mistake. However it's more just a result of the style of the medium.
I don't see how doing this for the benefit of a live audience invalidates this as a mistake, especially since the actors could just as well go into another "room" on the set to have their conversation. If you are speaking at a normal volume and the person five feet away from you can't hear you, unless they are dead or hard of hearing, then it's a legitimate mistake, deliberate or otherwise.
I agree. If you think they characters are talking too loudly not to be heard, turn down the volume of your TV till you can't hear them from across the room.
9th Jan 2019
The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
Corrected entry: When placed in solitary confinement Andy tells the warden that "everything stops", meaning that he intends to stop working on the corrupt financial schemes in operation at the prison. Why on earth would an intelligent man like Andy Dufresne make such a threat? There is no hint that he is bluffing, even though he must surely know that he cannot meaningfully threaten the warden, a man who has absolute power over life and death in the prison and even that is beside the point! The financial schemes operated by Andy are there to ensure HIS prosperity, not that of the warden. "Stopping everything" would deprive him of the key to his new life in Mexico. By the time he is sentenced to solitary confinement Andy's escape plans are very advanced; he must be at least two thirds of the way through the prison wall by that stage. His picking up the funds deposited in false names in banks throughout the area is an absolutely essential part of his escape to Mexico and it would be pointless and stupid for him to endanger it in any way, or even to threaten to do so. It is essential that he stays in his "one bunk Hilton" and maintains his access to the warden's financial dealings, and he would know that.
Correction: Rubbish. Andy is a highly intelligent man who has made complex and far reaching plans for his future. The warden has already arranged one murder - why stop there? Andy would keep his mouth shut.
Correction: It's not just because he was thrown in solitary. His friend was also just killed by the guards and Andy knows it was a set up. He was helping Tommy get an education and taken a mentor role over him. They had grown close and he was legit making a difference in someone's life. Only to then be thrown in solitaire and have this friend killed. He was emotionally destroyed by this and was the tipping point.
6th Jan 2019
Star Trek (1966)
Corrected entry: The Ekosians have a modern society with large flat panel screens, but somehow haven't mastered color broadcasting.
Correction: This is due to when this show was made and the status of technology of the time. By this same logic, you can say the entirety of Star Fleet is behind with their technology is some respects. Like the simple blinking light displays of their computers and the monotone robotic voice of their computers.
13th Dec 2018
Common mistakes
Other mistake: The hero can usually knock out henchmen with one or two punches, but the main villain (as well as the hero themselves) can take much more punishment. This is practically akin to enemies in video games. In fact, heroes are so confident of their abilities that they can knock an opponent down and know that they are down for the count without even having to verify.
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Suggested correction: How is this a mistake? Of course the main villain, the boss, is hardest to knock out. If his henchmen were just as strong or stronger, why are they just henchmen? See it like a race, the champion is hardest to beat, that's why he is champion.
Just to give an example, at the beginning of the movie "Goldeneye," James Bond knocks out a henchman sitting on a toilet with one punch. But at the end of the movie, Bond and Trevelyan are beating the crap out of each other and neither is knocked unconscious. It's certainly reasonable for someone to be a more formidable fighter than their underlings, but it wouldn't make them magically impervious to blows to the head.
The mistake is that the hero of the movie very rarely checks to see if a disabled opponent got back up. They are supremely confident that they are out, even if the hero literally just rolled them on to the floor. Makes for good movie magic, but is totally unrealistic.
This mistake has four aspects. (1) The hero knocks someone unconscious for good with just one hit. (2) The hero does this to several enemies in succession, with the same results. (3) The hero shows no signs of fatigue. (4) The hero takes on the tougher villains and takes them down too. Doing all of these requires immense superhuman strength. In films about superhumans, this is not a mistake. But there are films that deliver this and are cheeky enough to give the appearance of there being a modicum of reality in it.
It's not necessarily a measure of strength, technique has got a lot to do with it. When one goes for the throat for example or the jaw a knockout is almost always certain, if you know what you are doing. You have to if you got no time to hit someone twice because the next opponent is not waiting.
You are right. But we don't see proper technique either. I really have issues with people getting unconscious for good from a punch between their eyes, especially when John Reese does it.
I agree with you that some movies take it too easy. But is it really common? The first knock out of Goldeneye example isn't all that unlikely, he may even have hit that guy twice, but a blow to the head, a surprise blow to the head can definitely knock someone out, happens in boxing all the time. Even between the eyes, as long as the head is knocked around.
17th Nov 2018
Star Trek (1966)
Plot hole: 300 years is just too long for the children to be on their own. How did they keep their clothes relatively clean for 300 years? Since the kids are playing all day they aren't out in the fields planting and harvesting crops for food, how did they eat?
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Suggested correction: For the clothes, it's highly unlikely that they wore the same sets for 300 years. They are in a town/city and on a world that is mostly empty of most human life now. They can easily just find more clothing their size from other houses and even stores. As far as food, children are very good scavengers.
The issue of clothing is not so much an issue as is the issue of food. Given that the children are growing at an incredibly slow rate, their metabolism is probably much, much, much slower and would require far less sustenance.
16th Nov 2018
Star Trek (1966)
Corrected entry: Scotty is cutting through the bulkhead to get to the controls to open the door to get to engineering, but considering the time left, why not just blast through the door itself?
29th Oct 2018
Common mistakes
Factual error: Wild animals are depicted to be much more violent and vicious than in reality. Truth be told, most wild animals will avoid and run from humans. Even wolf packs, snakes, and jungle cats will avoid humans out of fear.
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Suggested correction: This is only a common mistake if this always happens in a situation where there is absolutely no way the animal can be aggressive. It can happen, especially with a wolf or snake, so in that movie it just happened. Not a common mistake then.
29th Oct 2018
Common mistakes
Factual error: Often a person on the run will scale a fence quickly and get over it with little problem. And usually this fence has coils of razor wire or barbed wire at the top, and yet they show no sign of injury. This razor wire would cut you and your clothes to shreds. That's the whole point of it.
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Suggested correction: I don't agree it's common to see people jump barbed wire fences without injuries. Its more common to actually show cuts and torn clothes, as that adds drama.
The problem with "common" mistakes is that they are supposed to be easy to recall. From the top of my head I can't think of a movie scene where someone jumped over a barbed wire fence and got off without injuries. How common is it really?
Have the same problem with the nuclear explosion one, can't think of any movie where people looked at a nuclear explosion without properly guarding their eyes.
I can see what you mean about the barbed wire fence then. I know I've seen it in several films and even CinemaSins has pointed it out a few times... but I can't recall specific titles. As far as the atomic explosions one... The Wolverine, Dark Night Rises, Sum of all Fears, Godzilla 2014 (There's even a dumbass watching the explosion through binoculars), The Crazies, and The Divide to name a few.
Alright for the nuclear explosion, although in some of the movies you gave an example it's simply not true (Dark Knight Rises, Sum of All Fears and Godzilla nobody is watching the flash, Godzilla is even historical footage), it does happen often. So I'll thumb it up.
In Dark Knight Rises, Joseph Gordon-Levitt's is standing on the bridge watching Batman fly away. He's staring out at the ocean and watches as the explosion goes off.
No, in the next scene you see he actually fully turned his head to cover his eyes. A group of people are seen ducking too but you don't know they can see the flash directly.
29th Oct 2018
Common mistakes
Factual error: People often jump from great heights into bodies of water and avoid fall damage. But the surface tension of water is great enough it would be no different than hitting concrete if you're high enough up.
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Suggested correction: If you jump in feet first you can survive a jump into water from a very great height without injuries.
About the max distance you can fall into water without injury is 65 feet, even at feet first. Professional high divers even struggle to control themselves from that height without doing actions they can control like flips. An untrained individual leaping from a bridge down into water would most certainly kill them in real life.
To dive for up to 90 feet is an official sport, while daredevils dive from up 120 feet. And "dive" means head first. Normal people can and do jump feet first without injury, although is a coin toss. Certainly fatal bridge jumps are from very high ones (The Golden Gate is something like 250 feet).
26th Oct 2018
Justice League (2017)
Corrected entry: Batman could not know that the parademons could smell the fear and react to it.
Correction: He's the world's greatest detective. He put two and two together easily by watching it react to the thug and tracking their movements in the past. When we first see him fight one in the film, he makes it very clear this wasn't his first encounter with them. He's been tracking them for a while and studying them.
23rd Oct 2018
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)
Corrected entry: Before Wheatley tries to remove one of the Indoraptor's teeth, he shoots two tranquilizer darts into its neck. When the Indoraptor bites Wheatley's arm, the darts are gone.
21st Oct 2018
Ready Player One (2018)
Corrected entry: How come people using the OASIS have their haptics on full effect for battle? Couldn't they just disable, or literally cut out the haptics during battle to avoid feeling pain? When fighting in the OASIS, the "pain" is really your own suit hitting you, so why hasn't anyone just disabled them?
Correction: The players don't all already feel the pain in the first place. Most of them just have on gloves and some gestural sensors on them to track their body movement and have the goggles on. It's only those with the enhanced special suits like the Boot Suit, who feel the extra sensations like pain and pleasure. It's not that these people don't turn off their pain, it's that they chose to feel it in the first place. It's an expensive luxury.
Correction: Additional Info: Pain is also a way to let you know you are being hit. Since most avatars have armor/shields, it is a love tap to reply to immediately. Pain is also a great teacher. The next time a person is in a similar situation, you can bet they are going to be more aware of their surroundings.
Correction: Because the suits give a better control of your avatar in the game, you movements are much more accurately copied into the game and thus you are able to do better. I suppose they can't turn off the pain alone, or nobody would have it.
21st Oct 2018
Venom (2018)
Plot hole: At the angle of descent and the speed it was traveling (still burning from reentry even), when the space shuttle crashed in the opening of the film, it would not have left much of anything behind. The kinetic explosion that would have resulted would have downed the forest around it for a good distance leaving a crater, and the clean up crews would have been lucky to find any piece of the ship itself still intact bigger than a football. Much less been able to find any discernible remains of the crew. Yet bodies were being taken out in still relatively good condition. And probably most unbelievable is that the glass containers holding the Symbiotes were not even broken.
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Suggested correction: Since this is in the Marvel universe the capsule could have at least partially been made of Vibranium or Adamantium.
Adamantium is exclusive to the X-Men films which for the time being are under Fox, and Vibranium is exclusive to films within the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This film is part of neither. There were rumors and speculation prior to this film's release that it would be adjunct to the MCU, but there are things within the film that contradict it. Particularly Eddie Brock being dismissive of the symbiote being an alien life form. An alien invasion was one of the major plot points of the first Avengers film, so an alien being wouldn't be something people would be skeptical of going forward.
Like Phan said. But also, i'm referring to the glass of the container staying in tact. Those two super metals don't make glass.
I just thought that although there can't be a mention of Vibranium, it doesn't mean it's not there. What I mean is if Vibranium softens the bow of the impact the glass containers would stay intact. But I suppose if it's not allowed to exist for the films, then I guess it doesn't exist. The glass can be nanotechnology though.
I see what you're saying, but that wouldn't mater with an impact like that. Space Shuttles are even made of Titanium, and would still be smashed to millions of little pieces from a reentry impact like that. The momentum and resulting kinetic explosion would devastate everything around it and level the forest for a good distance, leaving a massive creator, possibly as big or bigger than a football field. We are talking a few megatons of force.
This movie is not set in the Marvel Universe. It has been confirmed by the film crew that Venom is a standalone movie so it doesn't take place in the MCU at all.
I didn't say MCU, I said Marvel Universe. Some Marvel Universe anyway.
There's only the MCU and since this movie doesn't take place in it, the ship is probably only made from the materials that most rocket ships are constructed from.
30th Sep 2018
Upgrade (2018)
Corrected entry: Grey Trace is wearing the superchip STEM, which is revealed at the end to be the evil mastermind behind the whole plot. However STEM ordered his inventor Eron Keen to do things, which got the ball rolling. Organizing the car accident, implanting stem into Grey and so on. Obviously Keen is a henchman of STEM already. However, in the middle of the story STEM is instructing Grey to visit the Superhacker Jamie, who is able to build a rootkit in STEM, locking out Keen. After that STEM is even more powerful and capable of controlling Grey completely. But why didn't STEM order his genius Keen to "unlock" everything in the STEM-chip in the first place? Codes were already known to STEM because he dictated them to Grey. The risky detour visiting Superhacker Jamie, even STEM being deactivated by Keen while getting hunted by Fisk and his men, is extremely dangerous for STEM (who doesn't want to get killed obviously) and on many levels very needless from STEM's point of view. STEM already controls Keen, instructs Fisk too and easily could order Keen to reprogram him and put him into Grey (easy binary codes already known to STEM). The story could end after 20 minutes.
Correction: You're coming at this from an angle that Keen is completely under stem's control... However that appears to not be the case. He does manipulate Keen and orchestrates this whole thing, but it's obvious he keeps things from Keen and has secrets from him as well. Like the fact he was going to have Gray turn on Keen and kill him. stem orchestrated the visit to the superhacker to have the last of Keen's control over him cut off so he could be fully free. Cause he may have been manipulation Keen from the get go, but that doesn't mean Keen couldn't have decided to pull the plug at any point if he thought things were getting out of control. Keen loves his creation, i.e. loves stem like a father would a son and would want to try and see it blossom, but he didn't know the full extent of stem's plan. He was ready to shut stem down after seeing him venture into more dangerous situations. And it's likely that stem was playing Keen as hard as he was playing Gray and leading him on thinking something else was going on when it wasn't. He used the situation with the bar and forcing Keen's hand to start shutting him down to give Gray the motivation he needed to seek out the Superhacker so he wouldn't lose his abilities and could still chase revenge for his wife. It was a risky move on stem's part, but it was the only way he could get what he wanted by giving Gray a reason to go to the hacker, and forcing Keen's hand into the attempted shutdown so he could have it counteracted. Keen is even seen crying sitting there at the end showing that the screen says Subject Lost or similar. Though it's unclear if he's crying because he realises he's lost control of his creation... or if he actually thinks he destroyed stem at that point but doesn't know about the hack. Either way, stem did what he had to to get what he wanted in the end.
I already assumed that someone would write something like that. However there are still needless detours. For example after stem gained full control over Grey (after the Hack) they still "visit" and kill Fisk instead going directly to Keen and kill him. And if Keen isn't fully involved in stems plans, why does he agree to kill Grey's wife? Why should Keen agree to a murder someone if there is no scientific gain? If stem instructed the killing then Keen should get very suspicious and stop the experiment. If Keen ordered it, then it is proof that Keen was already a puppet of stem from the beginning. And why is Keen so surprised that stem is talking to Grey? stem already talked to Keen instructing him to stage the car incident and so on.
As far as going after Fisk, that was a loose end that stem couldn't just let walk around. Fisk was the leader of the group that attacked Grey and his wife, and specifically the one who pulled the trigger killing the wife. First rule of assassination, kill the assassin. And as far as Keen, again we don't see the story that stem has been feeding to him or really see Keen's side of the story. It's apparent that Keen has some mental challenges like Autism but is a protege with his inventions and understanding of electronics. stem deceived and led Grey along for the whole ride like a mastermind tricking Grey into doing everything that stem wanted him to do. He probably did the same thing to Keen. And with Keen having some mental issues, possibly even struggling with some concepts or right and wrong and even possibly having some sociopath tendencies, he could have agreed to parts of the plan that stem had told him and wanted to see the potential that stem could be in a person, but unaware that stem was going to turn on him or try to sever his control completely. Judging by the way Keen reacted to Grey venturing out to solve his wife's murder, Keen is much more interested in making sure his product isn't discovered doing things that could lead to him getting shut down. He willingly hires a private surgeon team to experiment on a living person with his product so that he could take shortcuts and even talked about doing it so that he wouldn't have to wait years or even decades to be able to test stem on a living person. So his scientific gain is that Grey is HIS prototype and thinks that stem is going along with his plan just like Grey thinks that stem is going along with his... when it's actually stem pulling the strings for both Grey and Keen. And as far as his surprise about stem talking to Grey, it's obvious that stem keeps secrets from Grey and may not have been aware that stem would have had the ability to communicate with Grey by vibrating his ear drum the way he does. Which would further indicate that he wouldn't exactly know that stem is leading Grey to do his actions and thinks that Grey is going rogue when he goes to the bar and starts shutting him down. It's very likely that Keen believes that the part of stem controlling his company is the true AI and doesn't realise that stem has seeded himself into Grey so deeply. stem is deceptive and calculating, and has been with Keen long enough to know exactly what lies to say and things to do to deceive him and manipulate him into doing exactly what he wants. All the characters in this film involved with it, from Grey, to Keen to the soldiers and Fisk are all chess pieces with stem playing both sides of the board.
24th Sep 2018
The Terminator (1984)
Corrected entry: During the final car chase the Terminator shoots at Sarah and Reese with a nickel S&W Model 15. We never see him obtain this revolver, the only weaponry we see him acquire is the AR-15, .45 longslide, SPAS 12, and Uzi 9mm but he never asked for the nickel S&W at the gun shop.
Correction: In the scene at the gun shop, the revolver is on the counter next to the other weapons. Here is a link. Http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/b1/TerminatorModel15.jpg.
Correction: The gun shop scene begins with the terminator already purchasing weapons. Its more likely he has already asked for this one before the scene begins.
24th Sep 2018
Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018)
Corrected entry: Solo wins the Falcon at the end and consequently all the money and the coaxial on the table. Then goes off to work for a gangster (supposedly Jabba) - with all that money, he really would not have to work for anyone for a long long time. (02:05:35)
Correction: It's not just money he is wanting. He wants to make a name for himself, to have adventures and get into danger. Solo is a very cowboy like character. He wants the thrills and also is greedy and would want more money. On top of that, you can't be exactly sure the amount of money he has of what it could get him and where. He may want things in other places that that amount wouldn't get him yet or may mean nothing.
21st Sep 2018
X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
Corrected entry: As Jean, Scott, Nightcrawler, and Jubilee are leaving the movie theater in 1983, it shows Return of the Jedi playing and Up the Academy. Up the Academy was released in 1980.
20th Sep 2018
X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
Corrected entry: The film starts out showing a large pyramid in Egypt and puts the date at 3600 BC. The oldest pyramids weren't built till about 2630 BC, a thousand years later.
Correction: The oldest known pyramids were build then, this one was destroyed and buried beneath the sand completely, lost in time. Basically the entire civilization that worshipped Apocalypse disappeared.
What you're saying would make sense if not for the 1000 year time gap here. The pyramid that Apocalypse and his civilization were building more closely resembled later pyramids like Abu Rawash. The early pyramids were a much different look. The precursors to the pyramids were mastabas which over time were the building blocks to creating the first pyramids, still hundreds of years after the events that we see in the film. This would mean that an entire civilization was wiped out with an advanced pyramid and nothing else dating older than it, and it not be found. And then a thousand years later Egyptians created the mastabas that led to them discovering how to make pyramids just like Apocalypse's. It doesn't add up.
The technology to build the pyramid was lost as well obviously, the builders died no records of it. Perhaps it was only rediscovered 1000 years later. How and Why the civilization that worshipped Apocalypse knew how to build pyramids like that isn't told but I bet it has something to do with Apocalypse and his closest followers being mutants with extraordinary powers that they used to build or make people build it.
21st Sep 2018
Finding Nemo (2003)
Corrected entry: When Marlin and Dory are inside the whale, we see his uvula several times, most noticeably when the two are hanging on to his tongue. Whales do not have uvulas. However, one was added by the filmmakers to show that Marlin and Dory were inside his mouth. (01:12:35)
Correction: Adding human like qualities to animals and items in animated films like this wouldn't qualify as a mistake. By that same logic, the fish speaking, having human like eyes, a shark being able to grin, fish using their fins like arms and holding each other, etc, would all be mistakes.
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Correction: This has been submitted and corrected in the past. Chekov was not part of the bridge crew during this episode, but it's entirely possible that he was part of the Enterprise crew in some other capacity.
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Correct. And one time in an interview, the actor playing Chekov likes to tell the story that he was just part of the crew and met Khan coming out of the bathroom.
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