Phaneron

11th Sep 2020

Boy Meets World (1993)

What A Drag! - S7-E11

Stupidity: When Eric, dressed in drag, tearfully sits down next to Topanga, she asks him if they know each other because she doesn't realise it is him. Topanga's known Eric practically her entire life, and she is one of the smarter characters on the show. Given that Mr. Feeny instantly recognized that Eric and Jack were dressed up as women, Topanga should have recognized it immediately as well. (00:10:40)

Phaneron

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Suggested correction: This is a comedy show and this scene is played for laughs. A character not recognizing another character in drag when it is obvious to the audience has been a joke for centuries. Also, on a realistic level, recognizing faces has nothing to do with intelligence.

BaconIsMyBFF

There's a difference between not recognizing someone you might barely know and being fooled by an obvious disguise worn by someone you've known for 20 years. I fully acknowledge that this scene is played for laughs and that this is a common trope used in movies and television, but the fact that the show went out of its way to show that Mr. Feeny instantly saw through their disguises demonstrates that show itself acknowledged how ridiculous his disguise was, and it was foolish on Topanga's part for not seeing through it.

Phaneron

26th Sep 2003

Boy Meets World (1993)

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Suggested correction: This was definitely done for comedic effect. Note that the firemen in both scenes where Eric starts a fire don't even make the effort to usher bystanders out of the area to safety, and one of them slowly and needlessly chops away at doors with his axe.

Phaneron

Corrected entry: There would be no movie if Rafael had just killed Diego. He could have even just left instructions to the jailer that his newest prisoner is the famous Zorro himself. Maybe keep him in solitary confinement forever.

Correction: Rafael explicitly told Diego that he wanted him to live and suffer with the knowledge that he has lost everything that he holds dear, including his daughter.

Phaneron

Typical villain mistake.

Only in hindsight. Diego was locked up for 20 years all the while Don Rafael was sitting pretty, and it was sheer luck that an opportunity presented itself for Diego to escape. None of this qualifies as a movie mistake.

Phaneron

31st Aug 2020

Jurassic Park (1993)

Character mistake: When Genarro is explaining to Hammond that he is at the park to report Hammond's progress to the investors, he says "In 48 hours if they're not impressed, I'm not impressed. We'll shut you down, John." He should have said "If I'm not impressed, they're not impressed" since the investors would be shutting down the park on his advice, not the other way around.

BaconIsMyBFF

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Suggested correction: He'll be the one to shut it down, not the investors. They gave him the ability to do that. So once he hears they are not impressed, he'll be shutting it down.

lionhead

That still makes the statement backwards, since he is representing the investors interests, not his own. The way he words it suggests even if they weren't impressed but he was, he could keep the park open of his own accord. The buck stops with the investors.

BaconIsMyBFF

There's actually already a submission just like this one in the Corrections section, with the correction - provided by JC Fernandez - noting that Genarro is referring to the scientists that have to be convinced that the park is ready to open, and that if the scientists aren't convinced, then Genarro will not be convinced either, and he will notify the investors of it.

Phaneron

Didn't see that correction before. When reviewing the scene in question Genarro does ever so slightly gesture behind himself when he says "they", which I had not noticed before.

BaconIsMyBFF

1st Sep 2020

Game of Thrones (2011)

Show generally

Corrected entry: In a show about zombies, dragons and magic, Littlefinger's survival is the least believable thing. He fell into the hands of the likes of Catelyn, Renly and even Cersei, but they always spared him because of paltry reasons. By season 6 he's practically daring anyone to kill him, but they never do. Sansa, Brienne and Jon Snow were all itching to kill him, but they always stopped for no reason. This is a poor and artificial way of prolonging drama.

Correction: That's just your opinion, not a stupidity in the show.

lionhead

Correction: Littlefinger is extremely wealthy and resourceful and has spent the entirety of the show (and even before the start of it) orchestrating events behind the scenes that make him more and more powerful, including the murders of Jon Arryn and Joffrey. Characters aren't in a position to straight up kill him because he controls the Vale army and has influence over Robyn Arryn. It isn't until his betrayal of Ned and Catelyn is finally revealed that the Vale army and the Lords of the Eyrie no longer have his back, which gives Sansa and Arya a reason to execute him without fear of reprisal.

Phaneron

Littlefinger only told Sansa about the Knights of the Vale after she had faltered again in her promise to kill him. That's just terrible negotiation. He's not allowed to die until the writers say so.

He told her his army would aid her. That doesn't mean only she knows he has the army. It's undoubtedly known by the Lords and Ladies across Westeros that Littlefinger married Lysa Arryn and became the de facto Lord Regent and Protector of the Vale after Lysa's death. And saying he's not allowed to die until the writers say so isn't even a valid argument. Every fictional character that dies does so when the writers say so.

Phaneron

Correction: Just because the powers that be don't like or trust Littlefinger doesn't mean they don't think he is useful for their own goals. They try and include him in their own schemes, but he played the game of thrones better than they did.

31st Aug 2020

Speed (1994)

Plot hole: It is never definitively stated if the bomb is tied directly to the axle, triggered by the speedometer instrumentation or throttle. Regardless, as long as the wheels keep spinning above 50mph the bomb will not explode by design. This means that if you lifted the wheels of the bus off the ground or you bottom out, you could keep accelerating without any speed at all. This could be accomplished in any number of ways. One example would be driving on grass and keeping the tires spinning.

StevensPointWI

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Suggested correction: And that would accomplish precisely nothing. They know Payne is watching them and he explicitly stated no-one is allowed to get off the bus or he will detonate it, only making an exception for the injured driver. What good is finding a way to keep the wheels in motion if everyone is still stuck on the bus?

Phaneron

The mistake is suggesting that you basically find a way to stop the bus but keep the wheels spinning such as grounding it on a hill. Then while the bus is stationary, just (I'm assuming here) put a weight on the accelerator to keep the wheels spinning and then everyone just hop off and walk away. However, you're correct in that Howard is watching the live feed so would just blow the bomb when people got off.

Ssiscool

I fully understood what the entry was suggesting, but Payne's demand that everyone stays on the bus under penalty of detonation voids it. Even if that wasn't the case, finding a way to somehow stop the bus but keeping the wheels spinning (such as lifting it with a helicopter) would be a logistical nightmare in that scenario. Their plans to drive on the otherwise unoccupied freeway and then circle the airport runway were much more practical.

Phaneron

The other glaring problem with "stopping the bus while keeping the wheels moving" is those pesky laws of physics. Momentum, kinetic energy, and inertia would all prevent that from happening under any circumstance that could be quickly cobbled together by any police department. I'm sure physicists and engineers could come up with something given a few months and a buttload of money, but for this example you could consider it impossible - especially without causing a lot of passenger injuries.

31st Aug 2020

X-Men 2 (2003)

Stupidity: The prison where Magneto is held should have had a contingency plan just in case of escape, like machine guns outside the cell, or tranquilizer darts, or gas.

oswal13

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Suggested correction: What good would machine guns and tranquilizer darts be against a man who can literally control and manipulate metal? As for gas, the area outside the cell is so large that any gas would quickly dissipate before it could be effective.

Phaneron

A gun made of plastic, there are million of materials beside metal.

oswal13

They had guns made of plastic.

lionhead

28th Aug 2020

Onward (2020)

Corrected entry: No stop sign can be seen, even though the boy said there was a stop sign.

Correction: This is too vague. At least a brief description of the scene (s) in question needs to be included in the entry.

Phaneron

28th Aug 2014

Boy Meets World (1993)

Getting Hitched - S6-E14

Continuity mistake: In every other episode where Shawn's trailer is shown, next to the kitchen there was always sort of a hallway leading to bedrooms/bathrooms. When Shawn and Jack are in the trailer in this episode, there is one big wall.

JuliaD

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Suggested correction: It's possible that the doorway in question has a door that when closed resembles a section of the wall. You can even see a thick gap in the panel of the wood behind the left side of the microwave to suggest so.

Phaneron

Correction: Sidney is telling his own story and doesn't know how he got saved. He said he must have been sucked down a drainpipe. Later when he finds out Batman saved him, he doesn't ask any follow up questions. The fact that it's never revealed has nothing to do with the plot and it's not a mistake.

Bishop73

Correction: Something not being explained is not a plot hole, nor is it any other kind of mistake. Batman, among many other things, is a ninja and an escape artist. We as the audience understand that he has the capability to rescue Sid the Squid from his predicament, and taking time to explain how he did it would just eat up screen time in what is only a 22-minute episode.

Phaneron

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Suggested correction: I watched this part five times, and Indy is not mouthing his father's lines. You can see slight movement in Indy's mouth when Henry is saying "when you were..," but that's not indicative of Indy mouthing the lines.

Phaneron

24th Apr 2005

Boy Meets World (1993)

Hogs and Kisses - S6-E6

Continuity mistake: When Cory first confronts Shawn over kissing Topanga in their dorm room, Shawn is looking through his drawer for a shirt. The shot goes to Cory for a second, then when it goes back to Shawn he's had time to find a shirt and put it on - the shot wasn't off him for nearly enough time to do that.

Shay

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Suggested correction: I watched this episode on Disney+, and no such scene appears in it. If it's from a deleted scene, then it should be specified in the entry.

Phaneron

Corrected entry: While Howard Stark is leaving the military base, in the background there is a white guy with black hair who resembles Loki.

oswal13

Correction: And? Just because someone resembles Loki doesn't mean that it is or was ever intended to be a reference to Loki.

LorgSkyegon

Correction: Think about it, probably Loki traveled in time exactly at the same point Tony retrieves the Teserract but we don't know yet, maybe will be explained in Loki's T.V. series and also it's very unlikely that a single guy with long hair and hippie look is on a military base in the 70's.

oswal13

This is way too speculative to be a valid argument against the correction. Until and unless the Loki TV series confirms that this character is indeed Loki, then this is not valid trivia.

Phaneron

Corrected entry: Einhorn's revenge plot against Dan Mariono was pointless. No coach, not even in the Super Bowl, has his starting quarterback holding the ball for extra points and field goals.

Rob245

Correction: Dallas Cowboys starting quarterback Tony Romo held the ball for a field goal attempt in a playoff game against the Seattle Seahawks in 2006, which he bobbled and ended up costing the Cowboys the game.

Phaneron

18th Jul 2020

The Mighty Ducks (1992)

Corrected entry: Young Gordon misses the shot that would have won the game, but the game would have needed to be tied for that to be the case. Goalie skates off with his hands up and the game is over, so that means the shot he missed would have been to tie the game.

Correction: The game was tied. When Gordon is telling Charlie the story about how he missed the shot, he mentions that his team eventually lost in overtime.

Phaneron

Correction: DOR-15 is a sentient AI. It could probably figure it out and let him know.

LorgSkyegon

Correction: This is a baseless assertion, and therefore not a valid entry.

Phaneron

3rd Jul 2020

Common mistakes

Corrected entry: Whenever the plot of a film or TV show revolves around a judged competition, whether for plot convenience or dramatic effect, the protagonist(s) often will perform or be judged last, even though this so frequently happening would be very unusual in real life.

Correction: This would be a valid observation if all movies that have a judged competition and the protagonists being the last to go were somehow connected to each other. But as each movie stands on its own, it's not really a plot hole or any other kind of mistake that the main characters are the last to go, because the improbability of that happening is relative to the given film itself and doesn't factor into other films dealing with the same subject.

Phaneron

24th Jun 2020

The Avengers (2012)

Stupidity: At the beginning after Loki steals the tesseract he could easily uses his magic to make a portal in order to disappear from there.

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Suggested correction: Loki has never been shown to have the ability to form portals.

Never? He used the Tesseract in Endgame to disappear.

oswal13

The original entry is saying that Loki could have used his own magic to create a portal. He has never been shown to have that power. If he did, he would have been able to escape the portal Doctor Strange trapped him in in Thor: Ragnarok.

Phaneron

Suggested correction: Loki is a trickster and only has the ability of creating illusions making anyone see what he wants them to see.

Suggested correction: Loki didn't need to create a portal to escape (not that he has that ability anyway). He escaped very easily with Hawkeye, who became his henchman.

Suggested correction: Loki does not possess the ability to create portals with his magic. He could potentially use the Tesseract to do so, but it's possible he believes it needs to be connected to a machine or in some other kind of housing to be safely utilized, since that is how the portal opened that allowed him to come to Earth, and then later allowed him to open the portal above Stark Tower to allow the Chitauri to invade.

Phaneron

24th Jun 2020

Signs (2002)

Continuity mistake: When Graham gets out of bed and goes into the hallway, he is barefoot. Next thing we see is that he has his shoes on and tied up nicely.

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Suggested correction: It should be noted that before Graham is shown going outside, the film cuts away to Merrill getting startled out of bed by Bo's screams, suggesting that Graham took the time to put his shoes on before going outside to check on his children. Maybe you could argue his fatherly instincts in taking time to put on his shoes when his children are potentially in danger is a stupidity, but that would be a separate entry altogether.

Phaneron

24th Jun 2020

The Punisher (2004)

Continuity mistake: Toward the end if the movie when Castle goes to Saint's compound to exact his final revenge, the first guard he kills is with a bow and arrow. Castle shoots him in the back but when the guard falls forward he reveals Castle on a perch directly in front facing him.

bnemirow

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Suggested correction: He doesn't shoot him in the back. He shoots him in the front and the arrow penetrates through. If you slow it down, you can see the arrowhead pointing out of his back.

Phaneron

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